How the ctrl-Left make it impossible to be a Nice Conservative

Howdy, folks. Are you all still warming your hands at the coals? From the latest witch that needed burning?

Let me pull up a crate, and tell you a story . . .

I’ve slowly, gradually, achingly reached the conclusion that for a committed ctrl-Leftist, there is not now, nor can there ever be, a Good Conservative. There are Nice Conservatives—who will of course be patted on the head and given table scraps, for being willfully second class human beings in the hierarchy of moral perfection—but there are no Good Conservatives.

Perfect example: Mitt Romney never got treated any better than they treated Bush before him, nor Trump after him.

I happen to think Mitt was the most genuinely decent person to run for the Presidency since Reagan, and yet Romney got called Literally Hitler just like they call all of us Literally Hitler, whenever it suits them.

The Nice Conservative is an indentured servant, polishing the silver in the ctrl-Leftist mansion. Never speaking unless spoken to. Tipping his hat. Straining to smile, and step out of the way. Whenever they tell you to shame someone, you shame them. Whenever they tell you to hate someone, you hate them. If they tell you to escort that person to the door, you not only escort him to the door, you throw thim out with vigor — and pray that the ctrl-Left Master notices.

But as soon as any of us stop being Nice, or we actually start to peel their grubby little paws off the levers of power, they freak out. It’s a four-alarm house fire. We all become Literally Hitler. For daring to stand up. The indentured servant has talked back. This is a violation of the rational order. Sacrilege.

Thus the Nice Conservative will get thrown out of the mansion and beaten with a rod, along with all the other Mean Conservatives—whenever it suits the ctrl-Leftist Master’s purposes.

Ergo, we are all Deplorable. All of us.

I used to think that if I was just patient enough, and kept my powder dry, that I could make a difference. That I could appeal to the better angels of ctrl-Leftist nature. I desperately wanted to believe that reason and good will and careful argument could win. I rallied to flags I thought reflected a similar sentiment.

Nope. We all get kicked to the curb, regardless. We all get painted with the same brush. We are all evil. All of us together. No save for the Nice Conservative. It’s Literally Hitler time.

So I no longer believe them when they tell me I have to slit somebody’s throat, to demonstrate I have standards and can be counted as a Nice Conservative. It won’t save me from their scorn, when the chips are down. They will label me Literally Hitler, and there will be a trail of bodies on my own side—people betrayed for the vain hope that the ctrl-Left respect honor.

Besides, how many throats do you see them slitting on their side? When is the last time they ever burned one of their own? To prove to us that they’re decent folk who have scruples? You have to stop and think about it. The answer doesn’t come quickly. If at all. Does it?

It seems to me that for every one of ours we’re expected to hang, there are ten of theirs being covered down for, and coddled, and protected — despite having committed far more serious infractions. Far. More. Serious.

But never mind me. I’ve grown cynical. By all means, throw another log on. Roast a marshmallow or two. Don’t worry, the smell of charred flesh washes out of your hair. Sort of.

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61 thoughts on “How the ctrl-Left make it impossible to be a Nice Conservative

  1. It is rather tiring, isn’t it?

    How they like to weaponize our standards against us, while having only double standards as their own standards.

    How they like to beat us with the lines we draw, by stomping on it, and when we even voice protest, tell us it’s our doing.

    The invisible spot.

    The most interesting thing is, they had to falsify their evidences – while any evidence we bring forth is ‘fake news’ or ‘edited videos.’ Or ‘propaganda’.

    Why are we playing by their rules, I’d like to know.

  2. The purges can happen at any level. Self-identifying as a Liberal or a Leftist doesn’t keep you safe. Trying to be part of the Party is an endless series of loyalty tests. Someone who is found to be ideologically impure is retroactively excluded from the zone of safety and all of their old crimes–once covered up and protected–are now exposed to the light.

    Oceana has always been at war with Eastasia.

    Yesterday’s freedom fighter is today’s thought criminal, and the staunchest former supporters of the newly disgraced must be the first and loudest of the accusers, lest their own loyalty be questioned. It’s not enough to condemn a former friend, you must be prepared to testify that you always condemned them.

    And no matter how many times you see this happen, no matter how many times you have been part of the mob howling for the blood of the condemned, it is always a shock to find the mob at your own door. And to see in the forefront of the mob your closest friends and allies, the ones that you have supported through thick and thin.

    It’s no good crying out to them as rough hands drag you from your home and into the street. It’s no good trying to get any sympathy on the basis of past friendship. You’ll try it anyway, of course, that’s just human nature. “But, my old friend, don’t you remember…?”

    No, they don’t remember. They can’t remember, for fear that the mob will turn on them next. Memory is disloyalty to the party.

  3. Shadowdancer wrote:

    Why are we playing by their rules, I’d like to know.

    Because it’s really tough to say, “This guy is a good… ‹something›… therefore overlook his sins.” On the Left, variants of “revolutionary” can serve, but on the Right? “Patriot” or “good soldier”, maybe; “local sports hero and otherwise a good kid” in some recent scandals (but that was local cover-ups, not a strategy which yielded broad sympathy from the whole country). The consequence of weighing all axes of morality about equally means being good on one axis cannot excuse failures on another.

    This requires deliberate effort. We must learn when our senses of decency are being wielded against us and somehow resist—without (as the temptation is) weakening those senses of decency.

    And of course being aware of the possibility (as is actually the case with the Milo “scandal”) that the matter on which our outrage is being aimed might just be a fabrication.

  4. Here’s the thing. I DO have standards. I don’t expect Leftists to understand that…but I do expect conservatives to do so. I don’t need to consult the Left to know the right thing to do.

  5. “Burned” one of their own? *Burned*? Leftists are dangerously rabid mental cases who LIVE to acquire and exercise violent power over others. They celebrate their own mass murderers from Lenin to Stalin to Mao to Pol Pot to Castro and many others, and throughout history have impeded human progress and inflicted untold suffering. The philosophy of the left is crabs-in-a-bucket. Without them humanity would have spread among the stars by now.

  6. This is nothing new, it’s been like this for decades. Back even before Nixon.
    The problem is, so many of the people who call themselves conservatives these days don’t have the backbone to stand up to the leftists and tell them to pound salt. They want to be liked so badly, that they will sell their soul and sell out their compatriots for thirty pieces of copper.
    Look at Justice Roberts, who sold out the country, just so he wouldn’t have bad things said about him. A coward if there ever was one.

  7. I happen to think Mitt was the most genuinely decent person to run for the Presidency since Reagan, and yet Romney got called Literally Hitler just like they call all of us Literally Hitler, whenever it suits them.

    This goes both ways though Brad. The right called Obama Literally A Muslim and Clinton Literally a Witch. And this wasn’t just the Alt-Right.

  8. Actions speak louder than words – the actions of Obama and Hillary earned them the contempt and insults.

    Nice try at false equivalence and moral relativism though. Especially given Bill Clinton’s proclivities, Hillary’s active hunts against her husband’s accusers of rape and in the wake of the Podesta emails.

  9. Being nice conserved nothing. I too, like Brad, used to think that the left believed in actual equality or quid pro pro behavior (i.e. I’ll be nice, and then they’ll notice that and in appreciation they’ll reciprocate or agree to a moderate position.)
    No more.
    Hoist the black flag and sharpen your cutlasses, mates. The very foundation of Western culture is at stake.

    And then the Ctrl-Left has the temerity to demand that Americans act nice to certain cultures and political ideologies, so that they’ll see how nice we are and stop hating/killing us…
    my mind boggles…

  10. Ryan: ‘The right called Obama Literally A Muslim and Clinton Literally a Witch.’

    So, you’re admitting that you think Muslims and witches are as evil as Hitler? How inclusive of you.

  11. @Brad
    Looking at universities, there seems to be a trend of eating their own. It’s really a Trotsky has to go sort of thing. If the movement’s passions run on finding Goldstiens, they have to find them.

    @Ryan
    In my experience those that called Obama a Muslim were greeted with eyerolls, and I can’t remember anyone characterizing Hillary as a pagan. In much the same way that the right is fed the worst of the left, the left is fed the worst of the right.

  12. Camelstrapon–
    If you lefties would see fit to just leave us alone, then we might get along just fine. But every time you offer a compromise, it’s never an actual compromise. Are you surprised now that people have gotten tired of the status quo? What you see as anger is projection. Just about all I hear from my left-slanted friends and such is anger, anger, anger. Have your tribe tried being less angry all the time? But then the perpetual outrage industry would dry up and blow away….

  13. //Have your tribe tried being less angry all the time?//

    My tribe? Pedantic meat robots? We are all as cool as cucumbers. The left isn’t a monolith – and that’s the ACTUAL left. The mass of people to the right of me (Democrats and liberals and such like) are a whole other bunch of tribes on top of that. The left is infamously factional and multi-tribal and prone to our own metaphorical (and sometimes literal) circular firing squads.

    No, my point was about how, time and again, the right gets super-duper grumpy and aggravated just after they win big time. I mean look at Brad’s rant up top. Phew! Seriously? People said mean things about a presidential candidate?
    1. that’s a good thing on the whole – we don’t want politicians of any stripe having an EASY time of things.
    2. Romney got no worse a deal than most and probably better. Heck, the charge Brad offers is no worse than Kate Paulk calling all sorts Nazis (https://madgeniusclub.com/2015/08/27/yet-another-post-hugo-post/) That’s not a complaint by the way – just an example.

    //But every time you offer a compromise, it’s never an actual compromise. //

    Every time the centre offers a compromise it looks like a pretty massive compromise from where I sit but…I know my perspective is distorted by being a damn lefty.

    Anyhoo, can’t stop chatting for too long as us leftist have to go off and fight for the US constitution of all things (how did THAT happen!) and limited government (?!). Seriously, the libertarians were supposed to handle that kind of stuff and they seem to have gone into hiding and left the people in the red shirts to handle it. [sigh]

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  15. What possible reason could the Right have to be “angry all the time”? How about being under constant assault by a surging, power-seeking philosophy that will never, ever, EVER leave people alone? I mean, why be bothered by the past 100 years of history where millions of human beings were immolated in the name of socialism in all of its many, many guises? Why would a mountain of corpses caused by a the Left be cause for the Right to be upset? I mean, *really*….

  16. //John Van Stry on February 23, 2017 at 11:20 am said:

    Camelstrapon,

    Brad isn’t the right. He’s a moderate.
    //

    Good for him – he just likes cosplaying as something else I guess 😉

  17. //Redd on February 23, 2017 at 11:52 am said:

    What possible reason could the Right have to be “angry all the time”? How about being under constant assault by a surging, power-seeking philosophy that will never, ever, EVER leave people alone?//

    Yeah, that is just awful. Still, I manage to keep my equanimity most of the time in the face of it.

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  19. Yeah, I’m in favor of equanimity too. Such as “Die, communist scum!” But that’s just me….

  20. Ah, it’s Camel-whoosis again telling the assault victim:

    “Why you so mad alla time? Just ‘coz that guy kicked your teeth in. Be chill, so my buddies can sucker-punch somebody else, when we want to, okay?”

  21. No offence folks but have you tried being less angry all the time? Isn’t this perpetual state of free floating outrage what us on the left are supposed to be doing?

    Oh, I’m so sorry. I guess we’d better stop smashing windows, burning buildings and beating people senseless. Are you this utterly lacking in self-knowledge in real life, or is this just a act you put on when you’ve got some moralizing to do?

  22. Cameltoe is from the Peoples Democratic Republic of Science Fiction. Where they smile at you as they slowly push your head under the water. After you’re floating limply, they will turn to each other and exclaim, “I cannot understand why he was so upset? My goodness!”

  23. Cameltoe is still smarting over the drubbing he took at the hands of Vox Day when he tried to debate that worthy over the merits of two science fiction stories (one of which was mine). That was when the audience discovered that I, a Catholic, know more about occultism and paganism than does Cameltoe, allegedly a practicing occultist, actually a dabbler and poseur.

    So he sits at his computer and types “U Mad Bro?” as if this is an argument, or an insight, or even a witticism.

    It is because on the Left, they have nothing to say, but they are too neurotic to say nothing, or to stay on topic. For them, all comments are personal attacks. They have neither the wit nor the manhood to address the substance of anything said. They cannot answer any argument nor make any argument. All they can do is fling bad names at the opponent who recites the argument.

    Leftism is a mental disease caused by addiction to ad hominem.

  24. //John C Wright on February 24, 2017 at 12:08 pm said:

    Cameltoe is still smarting over the drubbing he took at the hands of Vox Day when he tried to debate that worthy over the merits of two science fiction stories (one of which was mine). That was when the audience discovered that I, a Catholic, know more about occultism and paganism than does Cameltoe, allegedly a practising occultist, actually a dabbler and poseur.//

    Um, John. That isn’t a thing that happened. I’ve never had an argument with Vox Day about your stories – although I have written about *somebody else* having an argument with Vox Day about your stories. Obviously, I’ve had other arguments with Vox Day but (perhaps misguidedly) I feel quite jolly about the way those turned out.

    Also, I’m very much NOT a practising occultist.

    I think you are confusing me with Philip Sandifer – which I’ll take as a compliment as he can string more sentences together with fewer grammar errors than what I can. However, he is a different person (he’s American, an occult Marxist, has a much more popular blog than me etc – I’m British [sort of ], rationalist, critic of Marxism (qua Marxism), and have a fun but shitty little blog with a cat that I concede did escape from one of your stories [sorry – he followed me home])

    //All they can do is fling bad names at the opponent who recites the argument.

    Leftism is a mental disease caused by addiction to ad hominem.//

    And they say Americans don’t get irony.

  25. The ctrl-left do eat their own, but it’s a weird thing. I mean, part of the ctrl part is the constant demand to prove yourself by attacking the right people, among other “shows” that you’ve got all the right motivations. So someone fails at that they’re going to get attacked as much as the “nice” conservative… pretty much anyone who can be made to depend on approval, can be ctrl’d by losing that approval. Look at just who the witch-hunts target.

    But there are certainly a protected class, or several, that won’t be turned upon no matter what they do. Both things exist together at once.

    As for tolerating ideas and other things that people do that you don’t approve of while you give them the benefit of personhood and humanity and appreciate some other things that they do or promote… this used to be what “tolerate” meant. No real person is ALL of anything in any sense, so why should a flaw or disagreement turn them into a monster?

    Our paradigm is twisted.

    The only way free of it is not to play. If you don’t care about attaining approval, you can’t be controlled.

  26. And certainly, the thing to take great care NOT to do, is fall into the shame and shun, denounce and distance trap. There’s no profit to it, ever.

  27. All kidding aside, it’s the Left that better fits the mould of being angry all the time. They were angry when they were in power, angry after losing power, hell, they invent new things to be angry about on an almost weekly basis.

  28. Synova has it: the expectation by the ctrl-Left that “allies” be seen attacking designated targets on a regular basis. Because if you’re not busy attacking designated targets, you will become a target yourself. This flies in the face of our Enlightenment code of justice, wherein men and women are innocent until proven guilty. For the ctrl-Left, all designated targets are guilty by default. Only those who become “woke” and go on the offensive — in an endless kabuki of recrimination — get to wear the “ally” badge. Yet the badge has an asterisk on it, because the badge can be revoked at any time by any number of Victims (note the caps v) whenever they feel like throwing the “ally” under the bus.

  29. Yup, pretty much. Cameltoe and his ilk from Pravda 770 are merely proles with ambition — people who style themselves as Inner Party, yet who lack the intellectual heft to even manage Outer Party status.

  30. RE: the ctrl-Left

    I learned, early from my grandmother on my father’s side, three rules for playing cards. I’ve expanded them to most things in life.

    1. Get all the rules up front
    2. Play by the other guy’s rules
    3. Always cut the cards

    Alt-right has taken these to heart. Everyone else needs to, especially Rule 2.

    Rule 4, my own invention: Understand the stakes, play accordingly.

  31. //Brad R. Torgersen on February 26, 2017 at 3:51 pm said:
    Synova has it: the expectation by the ctrl-Left that “allies” be seen attacking designated targets on a regular basis. Because if you’re not busy attacking designated targets, you will become a target yourself. This flies in the face of our Enlightenment code of justice, wherein men and women are innocent until proven guilty. For the ctrl-Left, all designated targets are guilty by default. //

    Do you mean like the way you’ve been attacking Evan McMullin?

  32. Amusing, isn’t it? How they always go for the “tu quoque” fallacy (or something they can claim is such) to “defend” or excuse their actions?

  33. Welcome to the Right, Brad.

    I feel your pain: I was in your shoes. . . . 41 years ago. I was the scion of a local Union Democrat family: my grandmother was Democratic County Chair. She got me a job as Youth Coordinator for an up-and-coming Dem Pol: Gov. Carter of Georgia. I even got to meet him. And the next day, I had resigned and was working for Jerry Ford.

    And even THEN, the Ctrl-Left was warming up its’ game. I got dis-inherited. Luckily for me, by the time my grandmother passed on, all her business assets were gone, nibbled to death by the ducks of the Democrats, during the 80s and early 90s. . . (she used to own several small independent grocery stores, mom-and-pop type. . . ).

    I came to DC in 1992, and soon found that, as a Conservative and a Republican, it was a LOT harder to get a steady girlfriend, or even dates: I kept noticing that, as soon as politics was mentioned, and I ventured an opinion. . . .I got dropped. Even the personals (and, yes, I tried those. . . ) mostly said “No Republicans”. . .

    So. . . welcome to the Party, Brad. . . .

  34. Love the evocative imagery (w/ historical echoes of slavery) in the first few paragraphs here.

  35. The only good leftist is an utterly dead leftist. That was true right from the beginning of the mere concept of leftism, but only now are decent people across the country truly reawakening themselves to this simple fact. You’d think that after the incomprehensible genocides of Germany’s National SOCIALISTS and Russia’s red communists and Cambodia’s Khmer Rouge and China’s red communists and North Korea’s insane communist rulers that this would be blaringly obvious, but evidently, lessons learned over and over must be relearned yet again. It’s damned depressing.

  36. I said this a year ago: the Trump brigades are to the Tea Party as Rabid Puppies are to the Sad Puppies.

    The latter presume a good-faith opponent; the former acknowledge a bad-faith enemy. Brad has recognized who he’s facing. Good on him.

  37. Cameltoe is capable of little else besides tu quoque argument. I sleep peacefully at night knowing that Cameltoe and his fellow travelers are mere spectators who would never, ever risk themselves in an actual melee — be it ideological, or physical. This is why they so often masquerade behind handles and pseudonyms. In the end, Cameltoe will always decamp to his safe space, where he never has to be wrong about anything. Because the other gerbils will stroke Cameltoe’s fur sympathetically, and tell him he’s correct.

  38. The tu quoque fallacy is not what is in play here. Brad is making (in various forms) an argument that X is a particular (and specific) vice of Y – where Y is the left and X are various sins that he has picked out. In some (maybe all, I’d need to go back and list them all) the specific vice he picks out is not, in fact, unique to the left. In the specific case I just mentioned, not only is “For the ctrl-Left, all designated targets are guilty by default” not unique to the left but is a reasonable description of Brad’s own behaviour. i.e. Brad’s own behaviour is a counter-example to the claim that this is a particular vice of the left (assuming Brad does not regard himself as an example of the ‘ctrl-left’).

    A counter-example is a logical rejoinder to a claim about a category and hence is not fallacious. It might be factually wrong, for example, my claim about Brad and Evan McMullin might not be true, but the structure of the argument is valid.

    An example of the ‘tu quoque’ fallacy would be somebody saying Milo’s views were not ethically dubious because other people who dislike Milo have similar views. That does not hold logically. However, if somebody was to say ‘Milo’s views on under-age sex are rightwing’ then a reasonable counter-argument would be to point out leftwing people with similar views. See the difference?

    //Cameltoe is from the Peoples Democratic Republic of Science Fiction. Where they smile at you as they slowly push your head under the water. After you’re floating limply, they will turn to each other and exclaim, “I cannot understand why he was so upset? My goodness!”//

    //I sleep peacefully at night knowing that Cameltoe and his fellow travelers are mere spectators who would never, ever risk themselves in an actual melee — be it ideological, or physical.//

    Let’s look at this as a writing exercise Brad. Take your character ‘Cameltoe’. Your characterisation is all over the place. Try and pick a consistent line, a theme. 😉

  39. And yet here he is, talking to a room where nobody is listening — hoping that rhetorical flourish can somehow mask the fact that he has already lost. Cameltoe haunts our back porches, disingenuously petitioning for a hearing. Precious few of us bother to return the favor. Because Cameltoe’s residences have ceased to be of any import.

  40. @camestrosfelapton: You do realize that we can just go over to your blog and see what you’re saying about us behind our backs when you’re finished being polite to our faces, right?

  41. //Christopher M. Chupik on February 27, 2017 at 4:37 pm said:
    @camestrosfelapton: You do realize that we can just go over to your blog and see what you’re saying about us behind our backs when you’re finished being polite to our faces, right?//

    If you feel I’ve contradicted myself, feel free to point out where I have done so.

    As for politeness, I’m not going to be pointlessly rude or polite. You get what you get. Making a meaningful point is more important than people throwing insults.

  42. Much as I agree with your perception of Mitt Romney, what has been galling –this many years later –is for him not to recognize that decency against the ctrl-Left is futile. Sigh! Wish conservatives would stop exhibiting Stockholm Syndrome or bring a knife (a noife as Dundee would say) to a gun fight

  43. Dee Bee, I suspect the past decade has taught many of us that “nice” counts for almost nothing, with the ctrl-Left. Because “nice” doesn’t win. They will use “nice” against us whenever they feel like it, and they won’t be ashamed. Because “nice” conservatives are supposed to be happy with the crumbs we’re given. Any conservative who expects more than that, or (gasp) stands up and demands more, will be crucified — for being Literally Hitler. No matter how “nice” (s)he is. :/

  44. It’s evident that the Progressive-Left behaves like the Borg: if you are Of-The-Body, you are known and thus trusted. It’s understood that you share the goals and intentions of the Hive, and that -whatever you might say or do on a public level- your SINGULAR purpose in doing so is to either engulf-and-assimilate, or to annihilate, The Other.

    Any “Other” can NOT be permitted to exist. Free will and independent thought are anathema. They’re unpredictable. They’re destabilizing. Only Properly-Guided Thoughts are permitted, so that The Known Order is maintained. The various Liberal paroxysms of hysteria we’ve seen in the months since Trump was elected vividly demonstrate what happens when the Known Order is upended. After all, how can a Borg-Member keep his smug sense of superiority when The Truth As Revealed by the Hive is turned on its ear by by some boorish running-dog lackey of capitalism like Trump, and it turns out that HALF THE FREAKING COUNTRY AGREES WITH HIM?

    Others have postulated that Leftism has become a religion. Religion exists to make sense of a chaotic universe. If that religion is not based on Truth, or Reality, or Observable/ Replicable Phenomena, it will fail. Both the Progressive Left and Islam have followed the model of the Borg to its inevitable dead end, and now both systems of belief are doing their frenzied best to Destroy The Other whose very existence -as well as their resiliency and their success- demonstrates the falsity of their world view.

    “Become one of us and believe as we do, or DIE” works – for a while. (For Islamists the “or die” is literal; for our Left, so far, it’s only metaphorical – those who are not Assimilated become Evil UnPersons to whom their celebrated values of tolerance and inclusiveness and civility do not apply. It’s a form of shunning.)

    It has also been noted that both the Progressive Left and Islam are waging a war against Western Civilization and its moral foundation, which is the Judeo-Christian ethos. We’ve all heard the God of the Western Bible mocked as “some bearded guy on a cloud who’s willing to damn humans to eternal hell for enjoying themselves a little-too-much while here on earth”. A more-proper understanding is that God is Truth, or Reality, or the Immutable Law of Cause-and-Effect. The Ten Commandments tell us how to behave toward each other to create and maintain a civilized world. Tellingly, the first commandment is (translated for a modern audience): “I’m God, you’re not; I created the world, you didn’t; now stick your ego in your back pocket and LISTEN to How Things Work. If you humans can’t manage to curb your ‘animal nature’ there will be literal Hell to pay, because savagery IS the natural consequence when humans can’t/won’t control themselves. Now, here is the Roadmap for a good civilization: ” and the rest of the Commandments follow.

    But the Left and Islam don’t like that roadmap; they want to have different, more-convenient rules which allow them to indulge some of their favorite vanities. They want Cause-and-Effect to be abrogated, they want a good, benign, prosperous world without having to constrain their behavior. Specifically, they want rules which elevate themselves over those Others they see as inferior and inadequate; they want the meek, productive Eloi to serve their needs without complaint, while they, the Morlocks, exploit them in any way they see fit.

  45. Please stop comparing SJWs to Morlocks. Morlocks were intelligent, curious, capable, and did all the useful work. Call them Orcs or something.

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  47. So your apex of niceness was way back when you started coming into the public eye with your pronouncement that the only reason minority authors won their awards was because they belonged to minorities, thus denying that they had any possible merit of their own? That was peak niceness for you, and it’s all downhill from there? (and your fall is TOTALLY and exclusively other people’s faults?)
    Interesting…

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